slobber2
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Posted 08/05/08 at 04:36 PM
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HI
I was helping my Friend ,look for a Stud . And of course Cystinuria testing is onHis List .
I havent really seen a whole, lot of Studs with , Cystinuria testing being shown.
Do some just dont put it up ? Or are some just not thinking its a big deal ??
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jkruer01
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Posted 08/05/08 at 06:05 PM
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I think the majority are not testing for it.
Jeremy
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SteveOifer
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Posted 08/05/08 at 06:18 PM
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Bulldog, bullmastiff, newf, saint, DDB, bloodhound, dane, etc., etc., etc.
It's no wonder why the newf gene was an easy find compared to the "mastiff" gene!
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jkruer01
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Posted 08/05/08 at 06:23 PM
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There are at least 3 forms of Cystinuria in Humans (so I have been told). There could easily be more than one form in Mastiffs as well.
Jeremy
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Janine
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Posted 08/05/08 at 06:25 PM
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Probably a stupid question, but if it came down from the newf, wouldn't the gene be the same? That should make it easier I would think.
Janine.
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DanH
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Posted 08/05/08 at 06:59 PM
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This is probably a dumb question, but when a person has kidney stones is this a human form of Cystinuria?
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jkruer01
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Posted 08/05/08 at 08:36 PM
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They already tested Mastiffs to see if it was the same gene as in Newfs...and unfortunately it is not the same. I wish it were because then we would have a DNA test available.
Kidney stones are created from calcium (I think) not cystine so it is something different. Just like in dogs, there are multiple types of stones that can form in the digestive tract. Cystinuria stones are formed from cystine. If the stone is formed by another mineral then it is something different than cystinuria.
Hope that helps,
Jeremy
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slobber2
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Posted 08/05/08 at 09:01 PM
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Ya now ,i was just talking to someone last nite ,about that.
She was saying Maybe we should go by how much Cystine .
The Dog is producing , maybe some get kidney disease.
And maybe some get stones ,and then some just stay the same ?
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There are at least 3 forms of Cystinuria in Humans (so I have been told). There could easily be more than one form in Mastiffs as well.
Jeremy
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slobber2
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Posted 08/05/08 at 09:03 PM
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I think the majority are not testing for it.
Jeremy
Hi
Yes i think your right :>)
But maybe this put a fire under everyone :>)
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jkruer01
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Posted 08/05/08 at 09:54 PM
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Quote: why would anyone use a stud dog that had not been tested for cystinuria?
Well, because the majority of them haven't been tested. Of the ones that have been tested a lot have only been tested once so even those results don't mean anything. In an ideal world everyone would test for Cystinuria and be honest about the results. Until then though people have to settle for what is available.
Thanks,
Jeremy
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jkruer01
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Posted 08/05/08 at 09:56 PM
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Quote: Maybe we should go by how much Cystine .
The Dog is producing
I think this is what UPenn does. Up to a certain level of Cystine the reports are reported as "Negative". However, once it gets over a certain level then it is reported "Positive".
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