AnnetteSt
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What kinds of collars or harnesses do you recommend for your dogs?
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CChauncey

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It all depends on the dog....and the training.....but I do not ever use harnesses after the puppy stage if then. What are you using now & why are you thinking of changing???
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AnnetteSt
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I am using a regular nylon collar. Kima, my puppy, is 5 months old and does a lot of pulling when we go for a walk. So I was wondering if I should be using a different type of collar or harness. I would never use a choke chain or prong collar but I have seen other types of more gentle collars out there. Thanks for your response.
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CChauncey

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There are many types of head colllars & easy walk (no pull harnesses) out there and hopefully you'll get lots of info from others here that use them successfully.
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For awhile I used the Sensation Harness. It is not a regular harness. It's for training purposes! I don't ever use them around the house or when the pup is unattended!
He should be in a training class soon. The instructor will want you to have him on either a show type chain (Linda sells these) or a prong collar. The newer prong collars aren't a bad thing once you understand how they work.
Around the house my boy wears a chain collar. I am going to switch to a leather (rounded leather) collar. I just want something to grab onto that doesn't hurt my hands. (He is three years old)
Some people use Haiti's which are head/muzzle collars. My trainer doesn't like them for mastiffs. But some people use them.
A lot depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Mary (on this list) uses a Halti with great success. Sometimes, one method works for a particular dog and sometimes not. I will say I can't stress enough to get him into class and socialize the heck out of him!
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AnnetteSt
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Kima is in her third session of puppy class. She is now in a class for adolescent puppies. The trainer does not allow nor approve of prong collars. I just want something to keep 70 something pound Kima from pulling 76 year old me!!
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Annette, I know exactly what you mean! What does your trainer recommend?
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AnnetteSt
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Posted 08/28/12
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She recommends the Freedom Harness. It looks very nice and kind.
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Annette
That looks good. It's very similar to the Sensation Harness. Have you tried the Freedom Harness yet? If you have, what did you think? The Freedom Harness looks pretty good to me.
Don't give up! I am "mature" and have had a busy boy. They do mature and learn I think the largest size of the Freedom Harness is what will do the trick for you. Your pup just wants to play...
Let us know how you like the Freedom Harness. Always good to get a review.
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Grant

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Quote: Originally Posted by AnnetteSt Kima is in her third session of puppy class. She is now in a class for adolescent puppies. The trainer does not allow nor approve of prong collars. I just want something to keep 70 something pound Kima from pulling 76 year old me!! I have never needed anything other than a standard collar, to train any of my dogs to walk at heel, without pulling !!! But i am six foot odds and 230lb, which makes the difference in you being able to train how i do !!!! Firstly i am never in a hurry, to start walking my puppies on a lead, but from when i start, they never get to pull ahead (ever) without a quick sharp tug from me, every time they try to move faster than i am walking !! You must continually do this until the message sets in !!! Never let them move ahead, and never use a long or extendable lead on a dog that may be heavier than you, because you will have little or no control on the dogs direction, the longer the lead !! And the long lead gives them the feeling of freedom, and will all the more want to pull to do there own thing !! If your 70lb dog is pulling you along the road, just think what will happen when she gets nearer to 200lb !! If a person does not have the strength to train a dog from pulling, then they should get help from a more powerful person, just to get the heel walking into the dogs brain, because if the pulling is left to happen for to long, it can be a dangerous nightmare for even a larger person !!!
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AnnetteSt
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KIma is less a problem with pulling than sitting down and refusing to move. And I do exactly what you do when she does pull. I am 5'3" and weigh 115 so it is a little more difficult for me than for you! A few days ago she sat down in front of an oncoming pickup truck and wouldn't move. The truck switched lanes and since this is a residential neighborhood was not going fast. I have decided to stop walking Kima for now. My trainer is going to bring a Freedom Harness to puppy class on Sat. so I will give it a try.
I find KIma a little bit of a puzzle. She is very excitable and hard to discourage from bad behavior. She harasses my small dogs and despite all my rewards, scoldings, time outs, distractions this behavior continues. I have the little dogs on the couch surrounded by an X-pen a lot of the time. Kima also jumps up on me and when I turn my back and ignore her, she just leaps on my back. Don't get me wrong, most of the time she is a loving puppy and happily plays with her toys. But getting control over her is a problem for me. Will she grow out of some of this? Will she ever learn to leave the small dogs alone? HELP!!!!!
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I am closer to your age than not. I am about your height..and which I was thinner Yes, she will get much better! Everytime a female gets her season she calms down a tad. Now others will dispute that but that is my experience. When the girls go into season, they are totally clingy and needy Mama's girl's. It's kinda of sweet. As to jumping up, yes, if you are consistent and if necessary walk out of the room and refuse to play with her for ten minutes. Or you can turn your back on her. She'll get the picture! Patience is key with all training.
As for the little dogs she just wants to play. She isn't going to eat them but if they are elderly, they may not want to play. If that's the case, you can fill a empty coke can with a few small pebbles. Tape the can with scotch tape, to close it up. Use this for serious offense ..if you have pockets carry it with you. You just shake it for a couple of seconds. Yes, it will scare her but it gets there attention without harming them. Don't use it for things you can teach without it. I use mine somewhat sparingly.
Remember, you want her to like the little ones. When she matures she will adore them. My mastiff lived with a tiny dog until she died. They were awesome together. Mastiffs generally like smaller dogs. Our dog weighed the same as a chihuahua. Ann of this board breeds small dogs and can help you...wait until she comes on. p.s. my mastiff never ever hurt the small dogs.
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p.s. i ALWAYS train my mastiffs to get up when I tell them to! I wish I could show you how Ask your trainer. If she doesn't know then I will tell you ...
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I need that secret Dixie!
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AnnetteSt
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Dixie, thanks so much. Your response was very helpful and so reassuring. You are right, Kima wants to play with the small dogs and they don't want to play with her. My bichon is 16 with limited vision and hearing and Kima likes to grab his tail and he hates it. I also have two very tiny Poms (puppy mill rescues) who I keep in the kitchen away from Kima. MyMin Pin who is 14 and also a rescue is another of Kima's unwilling playmates. Kima does know sit, down, come and stay but if she is excited her training goes out the window. Kima sleeps on my bed part of the night and is happy to be right next to the Bichon and Min Pin without paying them any attention. The bed appears to be neutral territory. I adore my puppy and want to do what's best for her. All of the folks on this list have been so helpful to me, Thanks!!!
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LindaGreesonRice

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This kind of halter works wonders.. I can special order them for you if the large size is too small... Of course I carry all of the special sized colars, up to 41" necks.
Large Dog No-Pull Harness $18.49 Gift Wrapping: Add in Shopping Cart
Product DescriptionAvailable in all our 1" patterns and solid colors. Perfect for use as a training tool, use a pull-and-RELEASE action, so that your pull turns the dog from the direction he’s going, towards you. Immediately, as he is redirected, release the pull, so the lead is slack. We have found that this tool works best with a 2’ or 4’ lead. Use vocal praise when the dog looks at you with slack in the lead, reinforced if you wish, with a treat. Use a very small piece of some high-value food like cheese, hot dog, freeze-dried liver, whatever he loves, as long as its small. Your dog pulls you, you pull to redirect the dog, releasing the tension as soon as the dog has turned towards you, at which point you make sure he knows you think that’s the greatest thing he’s ever done. Be consistent in the redirect and use lots of praise. The No-Pull harness does not keep the dog from pulling. It helps you convey that pulling is much less rewarding than not pulling. You should see some improvement pretty quickly. The time it takes to change a behavior greatly depends on how consistent you are. Well-exercised dogs learn faster than dogs with too much pent-up energy, but all dogs can learn to walk politely. For very ‘reactive’ dogs, try practicing in the house where there are fewer distractions. Also, changing direction frequently keeps the dog thinking about you. Praise him for keeping up. Collar and lead not included.

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Kristyn
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I can't find a harness big enough for my dog! I want a harness because I'm a small girl and big dog on a walk. He sneaks out of his collar and with a harness I don't feel I am choking him. But I can't seem to find a harness that fits him. He is 159lbs and I just can't find anything that says "Made for giant dogs" because XL is not big enough. I want him to be comfortable in his harness and not rub him the wrong way under his arms, and oh yeah be able to fit around him body LOL any suggestions?
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LindaGreesonRice

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Yes please, I would love to see them. Also could you give little Jordyn a hug for me? Kim let me know your website and I am extremely glad to have her help!
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To teach your dog to get up..when you tell it "UP"
Dog is laying down and you are facing the dog.
Say "UP" Storm (one time only), and then walk with an exaggerated walk (like a marching soldier), walking straight into the dogs front. Do not hesitate or chicken out! (You are using your own body to send message to the dog)
Make sure your walk is exaggerated (like Nazi's marching) Your knees should go straight up into the air. That command "UP" along with your suggestion that you will walk straight into your dog will get him to get up.
You are not trying to hurt your dog..just sending a message! You will probably practise this a few times daily as the dog gets older.
Annette, you also should teach your pup to be handled (touched) and to roll over on her side and lay quietly while examined. This comes in handy if you go to the Vet. Just have her "Sit". Then "Down" Then Stay Down. Then "Over" Teach in phases. As soon as she learns over (you gently roll her over, PRAISE HER.
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Linda, Do you sell anything such as the Halti but in a bigger size. The size 5 just doesn't fit Storm. Thanks!
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