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Denny, you need to post the contract and if it will make you feel better posting all your laundry then by all means do....   AKC ruled in the breeders favor???   What part of that do you not understand???


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I also want to know if you Joan are a Broker for Don Motz????????  You both said you got all of his dogs when he said he retired so GH could not come after the dogs........yet his 35 plus Mastiffs are still there we are all told.......so I expect you would not lie as a good Christian that you proclaim to be........Are you brokering his Mastiffs to avoid the law knowing he is selling pups........or is he still selling pups??????..........being a Broker does not always mean you get paid.

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It's all there from when Doc pulled down the french doors to the staph infection armegaddon.  The fight and demise of the chow to the purchase of Holiday.  Read woman, read.  There is no contract.  You can't read either?  It says on that website there is no written contract.  I have one written contract on one of my dogs and it's not with Don.  If a person won't do what they say they are going to do what good is a piece of paper.  There were no written contacts on Doc or Holiday with me.  Does Don want Holiday back?  Is that's what your saying?  I stole Holiday and wrote Don a check for him, mmmmm.  What part of that doesnt' make sense?

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Deb, Joan and Denny 

With all due respect, this thread was started and has been continued in regards to Angie Fish/Heska Mastiffs. I truly know nothing about the dispute, breeders, puppies, dogs, or lawsuits you are all in disagreement about. Deb- I swear to you that this mess with Angie Fish is nothing I (or any of the 12 other families) wanted to be involved in. I have told the truth and have relayed my circumstances to all of you and any new memebers of this forum in hopes of protecting someone else from going through the same. I am pleading with all of you to take the argument that you are having about another breeder to another thread. It compromises the validity of stories that were told with the intention to be productive and helpful. A reliable source says she is getting ready to breed (or help with) this summer. Which means deposits will soon be solicited. You have all been so supportive through this...and we are still here....hoping for some justice soon. Thank you.

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Step careful Joan - I'm sure there's people watching by now and this was all written down and the website locked before you showed up.

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Deb, As I said before, since YOU are the one that has the problem with them, YOU need to go and ask them there business!!!...........


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Not to interrupt your argument with Angie at all.  She is no better than Mill Creek.  The thread is really unimportant because it's all about people who will take your money and not give you what you paid for.  When Linda wants something changed I'm quite sure she will not have any issue phoning Deb or myself.  Since Joan wants to continue to bump the thread - she dead in the middle of the problem - not the solution.

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Oh, I, so agree Bobbie Jo, but others have other agenda's...


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If you notice I have said 2 times now that I believe Angie should get out of Mastiffs..........you did not even go thru a lawsuit like GH did........and many people have been cheated and harmed by this man.........so can you see the irony some of us see in Joan being involved in bumping this thread when she defends a man who has cheated people longer than Angie has been in Mastiffs??????????  I hope you and others get their money, but I am sure you feel some of these other people should be pointed out also.

I would be concerned about some of these people so called helping you ......their honesty is in question and some of us would hate that they brokered a pup to you or others and you get fooled again 

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I also want to know if you Joan are a Broker for Don Motz????????  You both said you got all of his dogs when he said he retired so GH could not come after the dogs........yet his 35 plus Mastiffs are still there we are all told.......so I expect you would not lie as a good Christian that you proclaim to be........Are you brokering his Mastiffs to avoid the law knowing he is selling pups........or is he still selling pups??????..........being a Broker does not always mean you get paid.
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Respectfully decline from taking part in this conversation, as it has nothing to do with the reason I joined/stay on this thread/forum. Good evening.

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Deb, where is your proof that i am brokering?????  You like to throw out the crap don't ya???   You are loosing it!!!  


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Oh Joan I'm quite sure you would agree.  But if she comes on here and says she was again cheated it would be different?  No it would be the same.  She would have been cheated again - so by then I believe she would think it was all the same.  You want to point out to others over and over and over but you're in business with a man who cheated me and you are defending him.  Go read . . . I just really haven't figured out how I wrote things and so did he that now are untrue.  If a great intact male landed on your house would you take care of them for years just because you loved them and then years latter call the breeder so they would know where their puppy is and what happened to them, all because you love the dog, you want what is best for the dog and then try to steal a dog from the same breeder.  Go read Joan, go read.  It was all written 6 years ago.

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Go read what was written Joan.  I know your playing catch up, but you have to go read what happened to understand.

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And your agenda Joan in bumping the thread?  To point out breeders who will take your money and not give you what you paid for?  Sounds like me.

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Denny, akc ruled in there favor.   That is what I am going by.   I am sorry, you can not move on, I really am....


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I asked you Joan..........why can you not answer......the first thing out of my mouth would be NO I am NOT.........your answers reeks of the truth that  you are a Broker
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I've moved on.  I have other great dogs in the posse now that are younger and fertile and Mill Creek is dying.  I've moved on.  He still cheated me.  And Casey Anthony will be free next week.  Rulings are apparently only what is allowed to be shown - not necessarily the entire truth.

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No Pallone, your questioning reeks of pointing fingers, doubt, blame or whatever els you want people to think and I have no reason whatsoever to tell you anything about me...  Maybe you should move on too...LOL


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I also want to know if you Joan are a Broker for Don Motz????????  You both said you got all of his dogs when he said he retired so GH could not come after the dogs........yet his 35 plus Mastiffs are still there we are all told.......so I expect you would not lie as a good Christian that you proclaim to be........Are you brokering his Mastiffs to avoid the law knowing he is selling pups........or is he still selling pups??????..........being a Broker does not always mean you get paid.
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You people?  You people?  Please Joan, a couple years ago you thought I had one of your dogs puppies?  How could YOU not know a dog that came from Kong compared to what you said was Titus?  I believe he claims Kong as his stamp?  How could you be that mistaken?

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Pallone, you can't get at him so you come after me, I get it...


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No Joan we get it.....YOU are a Broker for his Mastiffs

Denny forgets to tell that don told her that she only had to pay half and come get her dog.......then he would give her the papers when she finished paying...........guess what she PAID and he did not send the papers........Who tell me Who lets a pet go and think the people will pay them if there are no papers involved...........You hang onto the pup until it is paid for unless you are using the
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 No one trusts a stranger to pay for a dog and let it go..........with money owed........ if there are no papers involved.



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Run Joan and hopefully read.  He did not give me what I have a cancelled check for and you are defending him.  Stop defending someone who cheated me and I will have to sit here and talk to Deb.

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But I had Doc that you are saying I stole too.  You are getting things confused.  He already knew I was a good person.  I had vet proof I had saved Doc's life.  And Holiday had been returned the day I got him.  He was already pre-owed.  No one would want him by most standards and was already 6 months old.  It's all written on MastiffWeb and he was there and acknowledged it.  I have the vet records from his previous owner and my cancelled check. 

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1.)  I've explained myself fully in regards to Marley and how careful I was who I bred her to. I also have been COMPLETELY forthcoming with information to anyone breeding to Marley or buying a puppy from Marley. You are free to ask them! I was extremely careful in my selections and have been nothing but honest about them. And, yes, Cystinuria IS covered in my health guarantee. Is it in your puppies? I still only know about one of Yonder's brothers with Cystinuria so two is news to me.

2.) I didn't even know about the Wobblers issue until recently (see Theresa's posts). Now that I know about it, I'll be very careful about breeding to any lines with a history of it...never double up is how I feel about it and tell people about it. Hiding things is the worst thing you can do in this breed. 

3.) As for Don posting on my board, why shouldn't he have a voice when you have a voice here? Same with Joan. I try to keep things civil and yes, it can be a real challenge at times, but I do try to be fair and honest with everyone.

4.) MOST importantly, I've NEVER done anything unethical or dishonest in my dealings with anyone I've worked with in Mastiffs. You might think you can yell enough that people might start believing your nonsense and rhetoric, but the fact still remains, my record is great and I'm proud of my good reputation with great breeders in the breed!

Denny, nothing really for ya except I have to say the AKC had all the data and made a decision. I don't think anyone denies you love your boy and have given him a great home. And, in my opinion, that counts for everything. He is, in fact, a very lucky boy.

And finally, what the heck does all this have to do with taking deposits and not supplying the puppy? I can assure you that isn't something I'd do since I won't even accept deposits until the puppies are several weeks old and in great shape to go to homes!  I think it's CLEAR the two people you are referring to HAVE stolen deposits from several people and it's documented BY THOSE THAT LOST MONEY. Not just hearsay by someone like you who has a clear vendetta.

GEEZ, what in the world cause you to get a bee in your bonnet?


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Joan is a Dog Broker Denny, there is no dog club on this earth or a Breeder that condones a Broker............she is just like him Denny......and maybe worst being a Mastiff Broker and doing it in part to cheat GH and this Countries' Court System.  Look around people........these birds flock together and yes Angie and Joan and Don were all cheating each other also..........so welcome to the sewer of Mastiffs and the people involved.

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LOL, Pallone, anyone is welcome to come read mastiffchat.com under Angie Fish....


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Bobbie Jo and others. My sincere apologies for being a part of hijacking this thread temporarily. You are absolutely right. It needs to remain on subject.


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Yes Joan and EVERYONE can read about you, don, and T birds of a feather

 Teresa can You tell us all the Great mentors that told You it was for the Betterment of this Breed to breed your Bitch- Marley who has a C Positive Father, and Marley's Mom had 2 brothers that were C positive--2 litter-mates with Wobblers a carrier of the fluff gene and a carrier of CMR eye issue............Who are these Great mentors in this Breed of ours Teresa that told you this was OK and teach you ?????????? 
 
Is there one Breeder out there that would have ever done this if they owned this bitch?  What an absolute disgrace this is when you were on every board yelling about C and lying about my kennel and dogs and me, and you do this where C is coming in on every side possible........Your Bitch is not that good or even slightly mandatory to this Breed to do this.  I mean honestly you are disgraceful on doing this........You gave no thought to these pups, the owners, this breed..........You wanted something and you did it..............Want over Need.  No One I know or associate with would have ever bred your Bitch.........Did you even tell the Stud owners all this??????????  I do not know a Stud owner that would have ever bred to a Bitch that had all of these issue...........There is no way you are being honest here about this.......because no one would have done this or bred to this bitch knowing this...........and PLEASE tell us you are not going to Breed her a 3rd time!  Be honest we yourself for once..........you can not think this can make any Mastiff owner--Pet or Breeder Proud of what you have done.



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Joan, You may even have a great connection to Holiday.  I posted he was a Mammoth of a Mastiff - then you show up with Mammoth Mastiffs.  I left Don VM and e-mails all the time that he was a Mammoth of a Mastiff.  Clever of him, uh?  And you should read more history.  MastiffWeb is a great place to start.  Remember I'm not the one that posted 6 years ago I would never get his papers.  It was oh so many others, and I defended him then too.  And hopefully I have phoned and apologized to the one's I could find for not listening.

And Teresa I have heard some very nice things about your changes lately and am very happy - but would you let Angie Fish post on your board?  Providing her with a place to have contact with individuals she might cheat?  It is written down Teresa, all you have to do is read it, much like Wobblers, it's been around for years.  As a matter of fact there was a lady on MastiffWeb that got a pup from an accidently breeding named Peaches that had Wobblers.  That was like over 10 years ago.  It's all there in black and white, all anyone has to do is read the history.  Wobblers, Don's dealings for years with others.  It's all there.  Don't make the mistake with Don that you've made regarding other things you've changed you mind about now.  Burying my head in the sand and singing to myself about Don got me cheated.  You read about Wobblers oh so many years ago and you will find Don Motz in there with stories that don't make sense and mine do make sense and it's all there for anyone to read that wants to know the truth.  Just because I don't know something doesn't mean it doesn't exist and I'm still responsible for my actions and for that Holiday could never be the dog that he could have been - but I know the one's I have from now on will be.  Just like wobblers.  You can not respectfully defend or deny anything you don't know anything about, but you can find out - just go read.
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Very few in the MCOA can match my record for ethical breeding.....Don


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Okay, just to be sure Pallone gets the message:
Actually, I've been completely honest about everything with my girl in regards to both stud dog owners and puppy buyers. The pups are wonderful and doing great in the ring and are healthy!!! NOT ONE person has been misled in ANY WAY. I supply ALL the health testing data AND all the history I know of when I request to use someone's stud dog. As for breeding her a third time, it's highly probable and you can rest assure it will be to a boy who was Cystinuria clear to a ripe old age and was a great example of the breed just as the other two breedings were. I really think the two things that piss you off the most are that I have produced some really nice pups over the few years in the breed and that I won't back down from your incessant bullying. I have never had to stoop to lying which feels very good. So, you can keep up the badgering and the putting down of good people, but as for me, I'm done with you.

Now, hopefully, we can leave this thread for its intended purpose.

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The AKC does not consider a website where gossip is spread around as a place for decision making.  They would not read MastiffWeb.  But you can and make an intelligent informed decision.  The courts of this country obviously did not make the same decision as the AKC and allowed that website to be presented in court.  I would think you would want more information to make an informed decision and not less.  But again there are breeders who didn't know about wobblers and didn't read the books either but kept breeding the disease in their lines.

OMG Steve - sometimes you are just absolutely hysterical.
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And Steve you were there weren't you?  I can't believe a website was shut down and you weren't there in the thick of the fray.

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No I wasn't part of curtain number 2!

I guess Monty Hall discovered me behind curtain #3.

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Heska Mastiffs/Angie Fish


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Oh Steve you would have loved it.  Stupid me defending Don Motz against some very respectable breeders.  What an idiot I was, obviously. . . . lol.  And only had a few raggley Mastiffs that were all just pitiful in one way or another . . . I do know better now.  Were you in a coma the later part of 2005?

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Who was the original in this group of lying cheaters and money scammers............Don Motz of Mill Creek Mastiffs...........he was the mentor to Lisa, and Angie..........then he recruits Joan and makes her his Dog Broker.........they all could not wait to cheat each other, slam each other in public.......they are one in the same taught by the same..........if you deal with any of these people you will be lied to, scammed, and cheated..........pick a name they are the same..........and that is why all of their names are lumped together and should be on this thread together.
 
Teresa gives the two-- Don Motz and the Broker-Joan the board for them to try and execute good decent Breeders..........so No they are all the same, and none of you will get your money any faster by talking about only one of this team of thieves. 
 
Beware of All of them..............each name mentioned, they ALL prey on the innocent and new.........Everyone loves a Con Artist at first they always say the right thing to make you like them...............Each one is the same just a different name.......they worked together.......they mentored each other.  It is not that hard to get people.
 
The closest thing to getting your money is Lisa and Angie will try to distance themselves from Don Motz and Mill Creek Mastiffs, because no one in Mastiffs wants any association with him because his reputation is that bad.

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Perhaps, but I wasn't aware of all of the internet Mastiff forums, so missed the sailing of the Titanic!

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I really dislike guilt by association remarks, as it always works, until you become associated with someone you like, but others don't!

We all stand alone and are responsible for what we say & do, we can't be held responsible for what others say & do.

Everyone should be evaluated by their own actions & words. Not by someone else's actions & words!

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"If breeds did not adhere to a specific shape, form, and colour range, or if breeders disregarded this blueprint, the breed would degenerate to the point that it would hardly resemble the breed at all. Selective breeding does not just create breeds- it preserves them as well. Breeding purebred dogs inherently means accepting limitations on your freedom to just breed anything"...Catherine McMillan
" A reinforced consolidation of the American and British standards could be the basis for restoring our breed to the gladiatorial glory of its ancient past, in capability if not in usage".....Norman Howard Carp-Gordon
"I can live with doubt, or not knowing, rather than to have answers that might be wrong"...Richard Feynman
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For all those that were scammed and lied about by angie and scott fish of Mountain Mastiffs, Lakeside Mountain Mastiffs and  Heska Mastiffs...

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There has never been a dog bred by, or sold by, Mill Creek Mastiffs or Mammoth Mastiffs, that tested positive for cystinuria to my knowledge. If anyone knows of one contact me asap....

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I am going to make your day Steve and agree with you here.........after thinking about this I wish to apologize to Don Motz in comparing him to Teresa of Oasis Mastiffs..............even Don would have never breed her Bitch --Marley with a Sire positive for C and a Dame with 2 brothers positive with C let alone the 2 litter-mates with Wobblers.  Granted he may have sold her and not told or not given the papers.....But even Don Motz would not have bred that bitch.

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I strongly encourage anyone who's being lied about and slandered to speak to Linda about this. I've done that and I encourage others to do the same. Linda is very reasonable and would not condone this type of behavior. Thank you.


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Since Linda is aware of it, I would hope that the slandering and lying about me by Pallone be removed..Thank you....

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3rd time I am asking and you have never said no so you are..........so what is it Joan???????

I also want to know if you Joan are a Broker for Don Motz????????  You both said you got all of his dogs when he said he retired so GH could not come after the dogs........yet his 35 plus Mastiffs are still there we are all told.......so I expect you would not lie as a good Christian that you proclaim to be........Are you brokering his Mastiffs to avoid the law knowing he is selling pups........or is he still selling pups??????..........being a Broker does not always mean you get paid.




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                Teresa of Oasis Mastiffs

Does your bitch Marley have a sire that is C positive
 
Does your bitch Marley have a mother with 2 brothers that is C positive
 
Does your bitch Marley have 2 litter-mates that had Wobblers
 
Where is the lie or slander when even the other litter-mate confirms it on this board??????????
 
Where is it a lie or slander that I would not and no one I know would bred that bitch?????
 
Show the lie or the slander against you.

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Lets put it this way Pallone, is Linda willing to be accountable for your stupidity for your lying and slandering on her public forum, since she is aware of what you are doing??????

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I see you missed me when I went to dinner.

I am accountable for my words....I have not lied and I have not slandered or liabled anyone.
 
You Joan are a Dog Broker, and no one in the world of dogs would have to be asked 3 times and never a denial.......the 1st time asked that question they would have screamed NO, and complained for days that they were asked such a thing. Yes folks it is a bad thing, no dog club allows it.
 
But sooooooooo many of us knew you were, and these good people that have been cheated by Angie and Lisa are not going to be set up for the next scam by you and Don without being told by some of us.  Anthony wanted to tell you when he came on........but there is where you need to learn to be direct and straight forward about it.........All need to be careful because there are Cons in Dogs and they are on this board.
 
Joan is a Dog Broker and a Mastiffs Broker..........known for years as one and pegged for sure now.



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Not sure if this helps but Joan is NOT my puppy broker. I don't have a puppy broker. Thank you )
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