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    02/08/10 at 11:40 PMReply with quote#1

I need some input.

My mature female seemed lethargic so I had the thyoid tested..again.

First the Vet did only the T4.  She said that it was low/normal or on the low side of normal.  We talked about medication.  But then she said there are two other tests I want to do..and I believe it had to do with hormones.  I got a call from her saying those two tests were normal so all is well..no meds. needed.

If the T4 was on the low side of normal would you medicate given the results of the other two tests?  I am leaning heavily towards the fact I feel she needs the medication...

So one test is low, two tests seem to override that T4 test in the Vets mind.
Can anyone who knows anything about thyroid chime in?  Medicate or not?

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    02/09/10 at 12:16 AMReply with quote#2

Hi ,If i got back a low normal ,id ask for thyroid pills ,A low dose to try and bring it up to the middle of the road anyway

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    02/09/10 at 02:31 AMReply with quote#3

Hi Dixie,

Dreamer had her Thyroid test done for OFA and passed - end of story.  So, I thought, then we went to our pre-breeding (mid cycle) check.  Repro vet wanted to send a full panel out to MSU and make sure that everything in the panel aligned.  This was of course for breeding purposes. 

All came back well, although she was slightly on the slow side of normal.  Repro vet says she 'd rather see them in the high side of normal.

She also got on me about Dreamer being overweight and "soft" not muscular enough.

She was never supplemented, consumed and did fine with the pregnancy.

However, she is still "soft."  She an lay around ALOT.  I think this is a matter of exercise.  She needs to get out more and know that she's going for a daily walk.  Man, when that leash comes out, she is so excited.   I think if the thyroid is in the normal range, even if low normal, we owe it to our dogs/girls to get them out and really exercise them and see if it makes a difference before we supplement.  A brisk walk is so good for Dreamer - we do not have to run, jog, etc.  She is good with a brisk walk.

Give it a try :-)


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    02/09/10 at 04:36 AMReply with quote#4

thanks Monica..I will.


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    02/09/10 at 09:24 PMReply with quote#5

My mom's golden had become lethargic and when she started getting regular hot spots the groomer suggested a thyroid test.  She came back low/normal and was put on meds.  My mom's exact words, "That stuff is like doggy crack!"
We had not realized how lethargic Maddie had gotten until we saw her feeling good again. 


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    02/10/10 at 12:23 AMReply with quote#6

HI
I know some breeders will just put a Bitch on a low dose of Thyroid , when they are going to breed them .

I think if the dog is fat ,and he or She has a skin issues or a temperament issue .
A low dose of thyroid can help ,I know if mine was on the low normal id put them on a low dose ,then redo in a few months .

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    02/10/10 at 12:28 AMReply with quote#7

No skin issues except for under her chin..its so hard to clear those zits up

I just see how big she has become.  She has gained 8 lbs. in six months.  I know its winter and that could be part of the problem...I think I should switch her to a good senior food and walk her a bit more.  She's always been a big girl but she's getting bigger.  No change in food either! 

thanks everyone!

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    02/12/10 at 04:56 AMReply with quote#8

Hi, I think usually if the T4 level comes up low they check for T4A and T3A levels don't they? Were they the tests that were run?


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    02/12/10 at 07:12 AMReply with quote#9

Hannah,

They did do two additional tests.  I just had them faxed to me today. I am going to look them over.  The vet says even tho the T4 was low/normal the additional tests showed she is normal.  The Vet should have done a Michigan State Lab but didn't do as I asked. 

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    02/12/10 at 09:53 AMReply with quote#10

Hi, i'm not a 'full bottle' on all this testing for thyroid conditions in dogs so was just asking for further knowledge, hope you don't mind sharing!?

What was her level that was considered on the low end of the scale?

(i asked a question, but found the answser, ha!)

Canine T4 normal (ug/dl)        0.8 to 3.9                       (nmol/L)   15 to 50        (from Michigan State University's lab)

Usually, it is best to be in the upper half of the normal range, but not to exceed it.



Kelp contains Iodine, which is a natural 'booster' for the Thyroid, maybe look into that? Although you do have to be careful not to give them too much as it is def not good in large doses.






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