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| Posted 07/13/12 at 01:01 PM | Reply with quote #1 |
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Ok people does anyone really think it is stillok to pay women less for the same work as a man?
Oh wait apparently congress and the senate do.
http://nationaljournal.com/congress-legacy/how-congressional-republicans-and-democrats-pay-women-20120711
An as a side not while I know that neither party is perfect and both have ideologies I agree with the republican side is far more degrading than the democrat side of the coin.
Wake up ladies if they think it is ok to pay their staqff less because of gender where does that thining stop?
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 01:02 PM | Reply with quote #2 |
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Quote: Wake up ladies if they think it is ok to pay their staqff less because of gender where does that thining stop?
Wow I type bad somedays.
Brain moving faster than fingers.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 01:43 PM | Reply with quote #3 |
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XX vs XY
They are different.
But using common denominators, someone handing me a burger at Wendy's should be paid the same, despite their gender difference.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 01:45 PM | Reply with quote #4 |
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It's what I'm saying. Congressional staff are not firefighters where the men's test is more strenous than the womens test and the men should be paid accordingly. The are staff assistants as in office jobs, phone calls, typing/computer skills etc.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:10 PM | Reply with quote #5 |
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I can confirm that gender equality does NOT exist in the private sector either. While working for a firm, I learned that a male counterpart of mine - same experience, same work ethic - earned about $20k more than I do a year. It is really stupid since I am an employment /tax lawyer. The pay inequality was adjusted as soon as I brought it up. I think a lot of employers just wait to see if they can get away with it, which again, very very stupid.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:15 PM | Reply with quote #6 |
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Quote: I think a lot of employers just wait to see if they can get away with it, which again, very very stupid.
Yea but we don't need any federallaws preventing this now do we? And why could congress ever pass such a law when they do it themselves and thinkit is ok?
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:16 PM | Reply with quote #7 |
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Not saying everyone needs tomake the same pay but equitable it equitable. My second job is a per hour job and we all start out the same base Min wage and then certaindepartments get more pay due to the effects their sales have on the whole corporation. Ie: more sales = more pay. But we in the department ae all in the same neighborhood even though we are not all paid exactly the same.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:22 PM | Reply with quote #8 |
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There are federal laws protecting gender equality - but, you have to retain a lawyer to enforce in many cases, which no one really wants to do. Or, make a call to the Department of Labor (or your State department of Labor & Industry). Either way - the employee - with fear of retaliation (also illegal) has to fight for the right to be paid fairly. A daunting situation for most. I'm not sure why the discrepancy exists for a government job - but I'm certain there is a documented reason. I'm not suggesting it is a good reason...I'm just suggesting there is likely a reason.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:34 PM | Reply with quote #9 |
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Just to play devils advocate, it can also depend on how they are crunching numbers to get those figures.
Honestly, I have been working for decades and decades (yeah I'm getting old) most of the time I have been treated fairly..sometimes I have not, but I refuse to be anyones victim or wait for some governement program to fix it for me.
I get paid for the job I do, yes there are some males in my dept that get paid more than me..okay one male in my department, but he also has more responsibility and is higher on the food chain. No bigs, I don't want to go higher, I am happy where I am.
I do think if you feel something is unfair, like Sarah mentioned, you have to fight for it, not whine about it...not saying the orignal post here was whining at all, rather just a general statement about not being anyones victim, be your own advocate and happy warrior.
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| Posted 07/13/12 at 02:47 PM | Reply with quote #10 |
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Agreed noone should be a victim and employees should not fear for their jobs for standing up for their rights but in the real world we all know that don't happen.
I also know the number crunching can have the effect and of course if someone has been doing the job longer or has more responsibility they do deserve more pay. Not arguing that point.
that does not mean I discount the article on the whole. there are actuallly a series of articles about women in DC. those in power and those in regular jobs working harder for less and that is appalling to me at this point in time. What's worse is this particular survey ran along the party lines for comparison. And for that matter both parties have female reps and senators that have staff. How can women perpatrate this on each other as well? I am not saying pay men less than women because that too would be unfair and i am not saying pay everybody the same I am just saying the gap is everywhere and Women and Men should be opposed to this standard everyday accepted practice.
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