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I was looking at the International Dog Show calendar and there are a couple of shows that are in my neck of the woods...Pittsburgh and Philly.
http://www.iabca.com/calendar.html
Is there anyone on here who has attended International shows?
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Hi Bes. Try Harrie at Baskerville Mastiffs - I think she had her boy Harley in some International shows. Good luck if you go!!
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The International Shows well never mind...The Foreign Judges are usually American Judges under the guise of Judges of being Foreign in or Canadian Judges. Been to them and reminds me of a fun match. Look at the names of the Judges and where they are from...JMHO....
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Yes, there are American judges and quite a few Canadian judges too, but I have shown to judges from Germany, Scotland once and a couple other countries too. I would have to dig up old catalogs to find exactly where... But I am not that organized!
I enjoy the more laid back atmosphere and the written critiques.
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Sounds like the clubshows I attended in Europe. I find that it is refreshing to be judged with the International/European scheme. It is a more relaxed atmosphere and I definitely love the idea of written critiques.
Thank you Nancy! Thank you Cindy...I'll definitely follow up with Harrie.
I've always wanted to do these shows and had tried to organize them in the Northeast but we have so many shows that it's difficult with the 100 mile rule.
It'll make Carl feel right at home...
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I have been to them. I enjoyed the relaxed atmosphere. I had a mastiff breeder judge, a Canadian and the other one was Irish. I liked the written critiques.
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Thanks Dixie. Love to hear all the positive information! Dixie...Nancy, I read that you can become an Int'l CH in three shows...different judges. As I was reading the entry rules, I was a bit confused. Do you enter all 4 shows or enter the first day and then enter at the show site?
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One of my pups got his international championship. The owner really enjoyed it and what I particularly loved was having a written evaluation of the dog. I'd sure like to have that at AKC shows where I'm often standing outside the ring saying "What the heck is that judge seeing?" 
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Quote: As I was reading the entry rules, I was a bit confused. Do you enter all 4 shows or enter the first day and then enter at the show site?
You would pre enter all 4 shows. According to their web site they are no longer accepting entries on the day of the shows.
The way this works is each dog/bitch is judged against the breed standard. I think they use the standard from the breed country of origin. They are awarded a grade by each judge.Several dogs of the same breed can all win the high points award at the same time. I cannot remember the codes off hand, but if you rate 1st aka V1 quality 3 times you get your INT CH title.
Then they still award BOB etc...
You and Carl would probably enjoy this.
EDIT : Bes you have mail. I was able to dig up some old certificates to show you the ratings and how they breakdown the critique by each part of the body.
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Thanks Eileen...Carl felt right at home...LOL!
I think we'll do the one in Philly...much closer.
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I am going to see if I can get Melody to take a ride down to Philly with me. I have always wanted to go to one of these type shows.
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I love the international shows. definatley not the same atmosphere as an akc show. It seems a bit disorganized ( it usually is) they have two shows on the sat and two shows on the sunday. You need to get three V1 ratings from three different judges to earn your International title. then the next trip around you earn a national title, the a silver title, gold title ect.
Keep your wits about you, there a lot of people there with some different breeds that we dont see, such as the presa's, cane corso's, filo's ect, and they are not as savy about keeping thier dogs away from other dogs. Sometimes the group judging for the second show is going on before the end of the breed judging of the first show.
You get a nice written critique for each breed judging, so you must keep your folder with you when you go in the ring. Also, entry into the shows doesnt pay for the title, you pay for that seperately, and it usually takes about 8-9 months to get it back in the mail.
It is a long two days, but I have enjoyed the shows. You get to see more than a few rare breeds, ie Miki's, xuilocuinti, ect.
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It sounds like fun and in Aug an indoor show would be nice if it's air conditioned. Philly is closer for me than Canada so maybe I'll check it out too.
I'm still a little confused can more than one dog get his/her title? What class would you enter a 16mo Dog? 
(Adults only classes - no puppies may be entered in the following classes; Puppies will never compete against adults. See above for puppy class information) - Open class/ OffeneKlasse:
- Small breeds (up to 16" at withers maximum according to standard): 15 months & over
- Large breeds (over 16" at withers): 18 months & over
- Zuchter klasse (Bred by exhibitor class): Age requirements and points awarded are the same as Open class. This class alone does not qualify for BIS Bred by Exhibitor. To compete for BIS Bred by Exhibitor, you must enter the added class of Bred by Exhibitor and pay $5.00 added class fee per dog per show.
- Championklasse: A dog with an IABCA National or International UCI title.
- Ehrenklasse (honors class): A dog with an IABCA National & International UCI title.
- Ehrenchampionatsklasse: A dog with an Nat'l, Int'l & Ehrenchampionats titles.
- Ehrenchampionatsklasse Bronze: A dog with an Nat'l, Int'l, Ehrenchampionats, & Ehrenchampionats in Bronze titles.
- Ehrenchampionatsklasse Silver: A dog who has earned the Ehrenschampionat in Silver title.
- Ehrenchampionatsklasse Gold: A dog who has earned the Ehrenschampionat in Gold title.
- Welt-Schonheits-Championatsklasse: A dog with Nat'l, Int'l, Ehrenchampionats in Bronze, Silver, Gold and Welt-Schonheits Championats (WSCH) titles.
- WSCH-Bronze: A dog who has earned the WSCH-Bronze title.
- WSCH-Silver: A dog who has earned the WSCH-Silver title.
- WSCH-Gold: A dog who has earned the WSCH-Gold title.
- Welt-Cup Championatsklasse: A dog with Nat'l, Int'l, Ehrenchampionats in Bronze, Silver, and Gold, Welt-Schonheits-Championats in Bronze, Silver and Gold and Welt Cup Championat (WCSg.CH) titles.
- WCSg.CH in Bronze: A dog who has earned the WCSg.CH-Bronze title.
- WCSg.CH in Silver: A dog who has earned the WCSg.CH-Silver title.
- WCSg.CH in Gold: A dog who has earned the WCSg.CH-Gold title.
- Welt-Super-Cup Championatsklasse: A dog with Nat', Int'l, Ehrenchampionats Bronze, Silver, Gold, WSCH in Bronze, Silver, Gold, WCSg.CH in Bronze, Silver, and Gold, and Welt-Super-Cup (WSCSgCH) titles.
- Welt-Super-Cup Championat in Bronze: A dog who has earned the WSCSgCH-Bronze title.
- Welt-Super-Cup Championat in Silver: A dog who has earned the WSCSgCH-Silver title.
- Welt-Super-Cup Championat in Gold: A dog who has earned the WSCSgCH-Gold title.
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We are going to the Washington Pa show. May 16 and 17. Washington Fairgounds are very nice and the building was built about six years ago. Food court is good, hope all the venders are open. This will be my first time showing international. Now all I need to do is figure out what class to enter in. Hope to see other mastiff people there.
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I would imagine that the classes would run similar to the European shows... This is an entry form for the Mastiff Club Belgium...
http://www.mastiffclub.be/menus/2009.pdf
Your options would be:
Junior Class (9-18 months)
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Intermediate Class (15-24 months)
I would still call them just to verify.
Another questions for those who have attained their CH. ... Can pups attain an International CH. Title or does it run the same as it does in Europe???
Can a dog under a year become an Int'l CH?
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Puppy titles are for dogs under 18 mos, over 18 months you go into the regular classes. The puppy title doesnt transfer over to the adult title, you would start again.
So under 18 mos, enter puppy classes, 18 mos and older you enter the offenclassen. Initally all the puppies judged by sex go in together, the judge takes you around and goes over the dogs one by one, and puts them in a line up for first thru 4th place. Then the judge brings them up to the table one by one and does a critique of the dogs. same thing for offenclassen, judged by sex, critiques. If there is a champion classen they go in next, same order as above. The judge will then bring the female winner, male winner ( offenclassen) the female and male winner of the championklaussen, and pick a best of breed. each dog has a chance at winning the title, at the bottom of the judging card ( there are two a cardboard one and also a paper one that has the critique on it) the judge will give a rating ( in the bottom left corner) you need three V1 ratings to qualify for the title. the Breed winners go in group, ect. the cardboard one gets sent in to the IABCA for the title to come back. they used to give really huge ribbons, but now they give a medal on a ribbon for the breeed winner. Each time you go in the ring, the judge needs the folder you are given, because they put the the placement on the certificate inside also ( also a small medallion on the certificate itself)
again have fun its a long two days, and you see some things you never see anywhere else. we bring a cooler with lunch and drinks in it both days, along with some chairs. Edit to add, the puppies also get a best of breed puppy ( there is a 6-12 mos, and a 12-18 month intermediate winner) and go into a puppy group . This is where the shows can get confusing, since they are running basically two shows at the same time, you have to be aware of where you need to be for both shows at the right time. Alot of times you will be in the ring for one breed, and they are calling for you in another. they will hold up the ring if you are in another, but you have to let them know ( the reason we also bring the extra person with us)
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I took Camo to the International show last year in June. We had a good time, but an outdoor show in June in Missouri is not good. Camo got his National and International puppy titles, and yes it took 9 months to get his papers, they just came 2 weeks ago. Camo also got a group I but it was so stinking hot, I opted to take him home before he fell over from heat stroke. We have 2 or 3 shows in our area yearly, so I'll probably enter him this fall to try to get his adult titles. However, I did find it a bit confusing, and it is an all day event for 2 days if you plan to attempt get their titles in one weekend. It's not like AKC where you'll have many shows from different clubs in a year. A lot of states don't have any international shows, so you generally have to enter all 4 shows for the weekend if you want to try to get your dogs titles.
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Carl and I went to see how the Int'l Dog Shows were run... To be honest, we never saw such confusion and the way it was organized left a lot to the imagination.
Is it true that every dog entered, if they receive a rating of v1 (excellent), by 3 different judges, that they earn an Int'l title? Don't they have to win Best Dog and Best Bitch to be awarded the CC? I've been told that each dog is judged against the Standard...well, aren't the dogs entered in AKC shows judged against the Standard as well?
In Europe, the ONLY dogs who walk away with a CC are those which are chosen, Best Dog and Best Bitch.
Is this how it works....because if it does, these shows most definitely do not reflect the 'European' way of showing. The critique would be the only thing in common...but, then again, the exhibitor does not sit next to the judge and the dog is not laying down either when the judge is writing the critique.
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HI Bes ,
I think Eileen and Laura who, owns Owen. a PJ Brian Pup are there
So i hope when they return ,we will know more
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We saw them there Marge. Melody was there too with Kane and Romeo. Kane took Best Dog at the 1st show I believe Romeo took Best Pup....it was a long show. We didn't stay for the 2nd show. Richard Samide (Monumental Mastiffs) was judging.
It was nice to finally meet Eileen and Laura. Pat was there with Bones (such a cutie!!!!!) and I met Eileen's Jelly Bean (cute). Joanie was also there with Star and Deacon. Star is a very nice bitch and Deacon a lovely boy as well. There were other dogs there and I do believe they were sired by Eileen's boys. I also saw the Andrew's bitch out of Hummer and Cedra.
We didn't bring dogs....we were lazy. We had them with us last weekend and this weekend, we wanted a rest.... and the fact that I hardly practice stacking the youngsters had something to do with it... lol
As I said before, its hard to believe that everyone who is rated excellent can receive a CC....that's like saying every first place in an AKC class is gets the points as well.
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We didn't bring dogs....we were lazy. We had them with us last weekend and this weekend, we wanted a rest.... and the fact that I hardly practice stacking the youngsters had something to do with it... lol
As I said before, its hard to believe that everyone who is rated excellent can receive a CC....that's like saying every first place in an AKC class is gets the points as well.
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LOL Marge.... I have to say that there were 15 Mastiffs, thanks to Eileen rounding up the troops. She called me during the week to remind me it's not too late to enter... I told her the truth as well.... we're just too lazy. I applaud Laura for travelling such a distance...7.5 hours! It was a pleasure meeting her and her boy!
The second largest entry, or perhaps the largest entry, was the Bergamasco. I never saw them before. They are a medium size dog....somewhere between the Komondor and Puli. I admire the Komondor...just something about that breed.
There were a handful of shepherds and singleton breeds here and there. I guess I expected a larger show but from others I have spoken with in the mid-west, the shows are quite small...nothing like the AKC.
We expected to see more rare breed dogs (dogs not yet accepted by AKC).. Of the Molossers, there was only one DDB....and a gorgeous youngster at that. Beautiful boy!
Looking forward to the results.
Bes
PS - Just to let you all know.... Bones was going around the ring like he owned the ring. Unbelievable! He was a PRO! Pat, you do wonders with your training.... Bones is just TOO cute for words! I can't wait to see this little guy at Somerset...I hope he's old enough. He can surely strut his stuff.... little stinker!
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Hi Bes, It was so funny because we pulled up and I thought this can't be it and sure enough it was the right place. The grounds and facility were definitely different than the AKC shows. It was a much more relaxing atmosphere. The Judges were all AKC and you have to recieve 3 different Judge ratings of V1 or better in order to earn the International Title. I agree that it could have used some better organization but Eileen provided a huge spread and she made us feel very relaxed so we didn't mind the shows confusion. I really liked that each Judge gave a full critique of the dog and spent time telling you the reasons behind their decisions.
I'm proud to say that Beowulfs Refuge From Reality (Brewster) is now AM/Int Champion and he also won BOB with a Group placement under mastiff breeder Judge Mr. Richard Samide (a very nice man and he said that Brewster was an excellent representation of a mastiff). Our Puppy girl Crockers & McKnights Evolution (Lucy) is also a National & International Champion receiving 1st in her class each show (very good for her first show) and also Judge Mr. Samide complimenting on her saying that she was a very,very nice young girl with a lot of potential and great balanced substance. All the mastiff entered were beautiful and I'm looking forward to Eileen posting the full results with hopefully some pictures. I'd rather wait and let her announce the wins seeing that it was many of the Celestial mastiff family (I know I would make a mistake). We went for something unique and although I wish more rare breeds were entered we had a great time and It was also nice meeting you along with everyone else. I'm so very proud of Brewster & Lucy, Thanks for letting me share!
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Congrats Lisa.... It was a pleasure seeing you and hubby there as well. I agree that it is a much, much, much more relaxed environment than the AKC shows.
We too pulled up and said...whoa, we're in someone's backyard...LOL! We didn't know what to do. I pulled out the directions and made sure Carl put them in the GPS correctly (trust me, there is a reason..lol). We spotted a bunch of kids by the house and they said...."just keep on going". LOL
We're looking forward to hearing the news and hopefully some pics.
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Well it looks as if everyone had a good time :>)
And PBJ :>0
Seems you also had a great time ,Hooray for your Boy ,But Also for your Puppy Girl :>)
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Thank You Mary, Marge & Bes! Brewster and Lucy loved trotting around on the Astro turf in a countryside setting. We also got to see a herding exhibition on a working farm which was pretty cool! The rings were larger than usual and pretty condusive for spectators and picture taking ( I wish my camera had more batteries!) I also liked the fact that being compared to the UK standard you could not loose per say but then you also competed against the other dogs for your placement. I think UCICB is the first CH title but you have to start someplace! LOL It was a unique experiance and I would continue to try for additional titles to move up in the rankings. They offered a puppy class that is too cute to watch and it is something that I always wished the AKC provided....... I loooooooved watching it!!
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| this was my first time at one of these international shows. It was a bit confusing and I think part of that is due to the casual nature of the show and the fact that they didn't necessarily have experienced stewards in each ring and the fact that we all knew nothing didn't help . Also each judge ran their ring a little differently. In the first 3 shows the judges examined the dogs, moved them, placed them and then wrote the critiques. In the 4th show Richard Beauchamp moved us, did an exam, wrote the critiques--then I thought he was done and left the ring. only to have people chase me down and say the judge hadn't placed the dogs yet, just a little embarrassing. He had us move again, reviewed each and then placed us.
It was hard for me mentally to get past that they consider all dogs under 18 months to be puppies--so I kept forgetting Bones, his brother Dude and Miss Jelly Bean were to go back in with Dante, Romeo and Vinny I kept getting that confused. Also they start the second show while the first show is still going on. So it gets hard to keep track of what class is coming up in show 2 while they are calling for the groups in show 1. Since their are 5 groups--Best BBE Puppy, Best BBE Adult, Best Veteran, Best Puppy and Best Adult we all would invariably have the wrong dog in hand for whatever was being called.
All of the mastiffs that were showing were good dogs and almost all have already shown in AKC shows. They all earned v1 ratings and more than one judge commented that the quality of mastiffs they were seeing was better than what they usually see. The way these shows work and with their schedule it would be impossible to get a title if they didn't do it by the ratings. You would wind up traveling all over the country to get enough wins.
It was a great learning experience for the younger dogs--especially the pups. They got more hands on showing done in a weekend at the age of 3 months than they will in a month at the age of 6 months. And they all enjoyed it. The little sharks demolished my fingers (even with bandaids as protection!) but they were very willing and behaved as well as a 3 month old can! I was very pleased and I loved getting 4 judges evaluations of the little ones.
Personally I am not dumping the AKC shows but I would do this again if a show was close by. The various Bests and group placements that were won by our Mastiff contingent were well earned and we were all happy to win them!
Eileen got some great pictures--I know there is one of Kirk and his Great-grandson Dante next to each other wearing their big rosettes--Kirk with his VBIS and Dante and Karen Reagan with Best Puppy in Show! (plus Karen got 2 Best BBE in Show with Riggs!) There was so much going on that I can't remember all of the results off the top of my head but I marked Eileen's catalog (with the help of everyone that showed) as soon as she gets back from the vet this morning she will scan those pages for me and I will decipher my shorthand and post the full results
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And HUGE CONGRATS on Kirk's wins at 9_1/2 yrs old! He performed.....well.....as he always does,,,,,impeccably! LOL!!!! and Bones, Jellybean and Dude did awesome for babies. Congrats on their wins too!
We are happy 3 Stryker kids earned their Int CH Kane , Star(Joanie Horrocks), and Riggs (Karen Reagan) as did Romeo and both his brothers Dante (Karen reagan) and Vinnie (Becky Thompson) And congrats to all the others who won too. My head is still spinning from operating on hardly any sleep!
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PS - Just to let you all know.... Bones was going around the ring like he owned the ring. Unbelievable! He was a PRO! Pat, you do wonders with your training.... Bones is just TOO cute for words! I can't wait to see this little guy at Somerset...I hope he's old enough. He can surely strut his stuff.... little stinker!
Thank you Bes! He has great attitude I am expecting to have a lot of fun with him. It's such a drag he won't be old enough for Somerset. Now that we did the match and these Int shows I would love to go out with him but he's only 3 months! I have to wait until November to show him! I'll find a couple of other matches between now and then I hope. I was loving his brother Dude too. Amy is going to have a great time showing him. Those two will be pros in no time.
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Oh Pat tsk tsk how could you forget your little Jellybean going Best in Show Bred By too ?
Bad Bad co-breeder/owner 
I am so proud of the little ones that showed. But come on that rosette that Jellybean got for BIS bred by puppy is bigger than she is. I am sad that we took pics of all the others but neglected to get one of her with all her gold medals around her neck and the ginormous ribbon.
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Here I am!!!!
Thanks for coming to cheer us on. Bes, it was so great to meet with you and talk about "heads"..lol
It was a long eventful ride home, but I and Owyn are safely back in Buffalo 
According to the guy manning the front table at the show, Owyn is officially:
UCI National & International Ju.A CH
that's a lot to prefix his name with...
How is everyone else going to add the titles? Suggestions?
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Here is the link for the International Dog Shows
http://www.iabca.com/index.html
They are a lot of fun - much more relaxing than an AKC show.. fewer entries and a much slower pace. I highly recommend taking a puppy for the ring experience. It is always very pleasant and gives them a very positive dog show experience.
For you Florida people, the next shows are October 17th and 18th in Orlando - at the fairgrounds.
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Laura...it was great to finally meet you too! Glad you got home safe.... what a L O N G drive you had! But, in the end, it was worth it!
Hope to see you at Somerset or, if not then, BUCKS! What am I saying! You;re going to be quite busy very, very soon!!!!! Bucks it is!
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I thought after reading this thread perhaps a little more light would be shed on the process...but it sounds confusing, so I wont bust my brain trying to understand it all.
Looking at the website, it looks like it cost 31 per dog show, so a weekend of showing one dog would run approx $124 for all four shows? does that sound about right, and if you had an extra dog it's just an additional $5 per entry?
Since I'm confused and have no clue what this is all about, I registered Wowsa  I think I'll give it a whirl come November (show in MN) and see what it's all about. Perhaps I can convince some other Mastiff people in my area (MN) to do this with me!!! (hint, hint to all the MN, WI, IA etc mastiff lurkers!) There is something to be said for safety in numbers!
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Sounds like so much fun that I am entered at an IABCA show this coming weekend!
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I love the individual reports too. I'll cherish them forever. I'll have to get his Int'l Ch as an adult so it will be interesting to see how he is critiqued in 1.5 years!
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bump for Chris
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| Hehe. Looks like the topic comes up regularly. I should have done a better search before posting my question.
Thank you, Tracy.
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